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Peter FTW

On the next day the rulers and elders and scribes gathered together in Jerusalem, with Annas the high priest and Caiaphas and John and Alexander, and all who were of the high-priest family. And when they had set them in the midst, they inquired, “By what power or by what name did you do this?” Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead – by him this man is standing before you well. This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 4:5-12

Dude, I don’t even know. The Holy Spirit through Peter does ownage stuff like this often in Scripture. This made me want to dance. I did.

-Riley

DEBUNKED!

Sorry, Riley, but I have to.

I pray and worship God like a Calvinist, but preach and proselytize like an Calvinist. Just not a hyper-Calvinist.

Contrary to popular opinion, Calvinism does not teach that we should sit on our rear ends and wait for God to do something. A sound view of the sovereignty of God in election rather teaches that we should work even harder and more faithfully than even those who hold a free-will view, because it’s not too late, it’s never too late for God to do a crazy work on someone’s hard heart. Even if they show zero signs of softening, or listening to what we’re saying/doing, we cannot give up because we do not know whom God has called, and we do not know if God intends to use our work to draw a person to Himself. So we must treat everyone as if they were elected, and we were the only conduit of the Spirit’s electing work in their life. Just saying…

Why are people opposed to the idea of ‘forcing your beliefs on someone’?

I thought the first post I put on this blog would be discussion-oriented. Now, normally this would go on my personal blog, but I thought “Hey, what the heck, we need to use this thing.” So here I am.

Now, the issue at hand. My question may seem a little outrageous at first, but I want the readers to examine it carefully. I’ve recently been curious as to why my generation seems to be opposed to the idea of ‘forcing beliefs on someone.’ Now, I’m not talking about laws, or codes, or government, or society, or any of that right now. That’s for another time.

Here’s my question: if you knew that someone could accept the gospel truly in their heart through you forcing your beliefs on them, would you do it? I’m not talking about someone deciding to imitate you and not having a real heart change. I’m talking about you talking to them and talking to them and even debating with them until they realized that the Gospel really was beautiful and were reborn. I know the typical response to this would be: “Doesn’t the Holy Spirit bring the change? We really can’t make someone become a Christian.” I would agree with you. But ‘living out our lives’ and ‘showing compassion’ are really not any more powerful than intellectual discussion without the Holy Spirit’s action.

I know I’m playing devil’s advocate here. I know that I sound like a grumpy grumpskins right now. But I want us to examine what it is we don’t like about the idea of intellectual arguments with unbelievers who will respond to intellectual arguments. If that will bring them to see the Gospel as beautiful, then why are we opposed to it?

Jimmy Needham has a lyric from a song that goes a little something like this:

We pass out paper facts all week but they won’t come around
We can debate theology but they won’t come around
apologetic reasoning but they won’t come around come around
there’s only one way they’ll come, and it’s love

I don’t think Needham is wrong here, but I can’t help but think to myself: showing love to someone has no more innate power to save than intellectual reasoning. Furthermore, showing love to someone doesn’t always have to mean living a nice, compassionate life and giving someone a pat on the back. Showing love to someone can mean going head to head with them intellectually if that is the best way the will be brought to a place where they see the Gospel as true and beautiful. I don’t want this to turn into an Armenian/Calvinist debate, so let me just set my view here: I pray and worship God like a Calvinist, but preach and proselytize like an Armenian. Ultimately, the Holy Spirit brings the change, and I know that. But I’m puzzled as to how our generation thinks that intellectual reasoning can’t bring people (through the HS) to a place of repentance. Yes, intellectual reasoning can only go so far. But so can compassion. Nothing against showing love to someone, and I’m not trying to be Scrooge here, all I’m calling for is a matter of perspective. If a person I know is an intellectual and reasons more on that plane, that’s where I’ll target them. If a person will respond better to compassion and niceness, I will target them there.

19Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. 23I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings. (1 Corinthians 9:19-23)

Let’s not forget that ‘showing our faith’ (also ambiguous.. what the heck does it mean?) is one way the Holy Spirit can use to bring change in a lost person’s heart. Intellectual/apologetic reasoning might be another. Friendship might be another. Logic might be another. Let’s not limit God first of all, and let’s not limit what he can do in us either. So to Needham’s lyric I’d have to respond:

We pass out paper facts all week but they won’t come around
We can debate theology but they won’t come around
Apologetic reasoning but they won’t come around
Showing love to them and they won’t come around
There’s only one way they’ll come, and that’s the love of God.

Yeah, I know I’m being all crazy YRR up in here. I’m just trying to create some discussion and give my position. Intellectualism gets a bad rap from a lot of the young crowd these days because many think it can’t do the same things that showing outward, obvious compassion to someone can. Neither can do anything without the Holy Spirit. And yes, while 1 Corinthians 13 is true, ‘having love’ doesn’t have to mean stereotypically what it usually means. It is possible to debate with love. Many people I know and I’ve heard have come to faith in Jesus Christ through logical debate and apologetics. It’s the way their mind works.

So here’s to befriending people and showing niceness to them with love for the sake of the Gospel and the glory of God, and here’s to intellectual apologetic debate with love for the sake of the Gospel and the glory of God. Both need the Holy Spirit, and both can be just as glorious if God works through them.

-Riley

Perhaps I was wrong…

Recent plans may or may not have been (almost) made to actually start at real blog at this web address. You never know.

Just so you know

Zach claimed otherwise, but I find it highly unlikely that anyone will ever post on this blog.  Maybe, like, 6 posts every 70 weeks or so. But that’s stretching it.  So I recommend you just get the RSS feed, and save yourself the 15 seconds of checking this blog and finding nothing new.  Because say you check it once a week.  That means that of the 70 week period that I randomly made up for no good reason, you’ll most likely have wasted 62 of those (assuming my guess of 6 was off by two for some odd reason, which may or may not be because I’m bad at mental math), which means you wasted…hold on while I google 62*15…930 seconds, which translates into….15 and a half minutes (if I was smart, I suppose I would have just multiplied 62 by .25, or realized that 15 seconds times 60 would equal 15 minutes since there are 60 seconds in a minute, but whatever)**.  In that amount of time, John Piper could’ve written at least three chapters of a book you could have eaten lunch.  So consider this a present from all of us at Mere Reflections, who may or may not even remember that this blog exists: one lunch every 70 weeks.  Aren’t we considerate?

*just a multiplication sign
**This has got to win the award for the most convoluted, confusing, parenthetically noted sentence of all time, and now it’s got a footnote, so it’s even crazier. FTW