• 03 Jun 2010 /  Discussion, Songs /  by Trey

    So Zach’s small suggestion to post your favorite hymn(s) which apparently got noticed started me thinking: why do people like hymns? I mean, I know more or less why I like hymns, but I wonder if everyone else agrees. So let us know what you think (or I guess, more like how you think). What makes you like hymns? And do you like original arrangements, or creative new ways of playing them? Or if you don’t like hymns at all, why not?

    We want your thoughts.

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  • 30 May 2010 /  Inspirational, Songs /  by Zach

    Just as a little add-on to Trey’s Assurance of Salvation series he has recently posted, I encourage you to give the old hymn Blessed Assurance as listen. I’ve found it’s a great song to sing when I’m having doubts about my faith. (Though I would prescribe worship to any number of spiritual conditions…actually, all of them.) Anyway, here are the words:

    Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine!
    Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine!
    Heir of salvation, purchase of God,
    Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood.

    This is my story, this is my song,
    Praising my Savior all the day long;
    This is my story, this is my song,
    Praising my Savior all the day long.

    Perfect submission, perfect delight,
    Visions of rapture now burst on my sight;
    Angels, descending, bring from above
    Echoes of mercy, whispers of love.

    Perfect submission, all is at rest,
    I in my Savior am happy and blest,
    Watching and waiting, looking above,
    Filled with His goodness, lost in His love.

    This is my story, this is my song,
    Praising my Savior all the day long;
    This is my story, this is my song,
    Praising my Savior all the day long.

    written in 1873 by Fanny J. Crosby

    My favorite arrangement of this song is by Jadon Lavik, off of his CD “Roots Run Deep.” Here’s the recording, complete with lyrics and random background pictures. (I recommend the CD!)

    What is/are your favorite hymn(s)?

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  • 26 May 2010 /  Doctrine, Scripture, Theology /  by Trey

    [If you haven't yet read Part 1 and Part 2, please do.  For your sake and mine.]

    Recently I’ve been reading through the book of Hebrews, a book often used by those who believe you can “lose your salvation” as scriptural support, because it contains several exhortations for those in the visible church (in Rome) to make sure not to fall away, with the surface implication that it is possible for those who are truly regenerate to not be saved in the end. Understandably, this book can present somewhat of a challenge to those who believe in the doctrine of assurance. However, I’ve been studying the book with Dr. George Guthrie’s commentary on Hebrews (NIVAC series), and he does a very good job of illuminating the true meaning of the text and it’s implications to the doctrine of assurance without bending over backward to accommodate crooked theology or blindly taking these passages out of context of the teachings of the rest of scripture (a concept I talked about in Part 1). So I want to share the perspective he presents (though if I say something totally wrong, don’t hold him accountable–it’s probably me not understanding him).

    I think the first thing to note from the many exhortations in Hebrews (i.e 2:1, 3:12-13, 4:1, 6:4-6, 6:11-12), is that it is both fitting and beneficial to encourage Christians to beware lest they fall away. This may seem obvious, since the author of Hebrews himself does it so many times (I just named a few), but I think it is easy for us to get so caught up in the doctrine of assurance that whenever we see/hear of those who claim to be Christians wavering in their faith we jump straight to giving assurance of salvation. But the author of Hebrews clearly does not do that; rather, he boldly and confrontationally commands the Christians in Rome to examine their hearts to see if indeed they are in Christ (3:13-14) and to hold firmly to the faith, thus proving their salvation. So if we want to be biblical in our teaching, we ought to encourage those who are doubting and wavering to hold on–an act of the will.

    However, we must be careful in what way we encourage and what motivation we give for holding firm. So let’s look at what the author of Hebrews does.

    • His first exhortation, in 2:1, is to “pay careful attention…lest we drift away from [the Gospel]“, which he follows up by saying that since the new message–that of salvation in Christ–is so superior to the old message–that of partial knowledge of God through the Law–how could we not listen? I think this is often misinterpreted, where he says “how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation” (v.3): he is not saying that we should be fearful if we ignore God now (he does imply that later on), but rather, something more like “this is our last hope, our only chance at salvation–there is no longer something greater to look forward to”. So the motivation he gives for holding fast is simply that Christ is our only hope.
    • His second exhortation, in 3:12, is “Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God”. Notice what he says: “Take care lest you have (present tense) an evil heart, which will lead you (future tense) away from God”. So here he establishes that the reason why “Christians” fall away is that their heart is evil and unbelieving–and was all along– like those in the desert who disobeyed God and could not enter His rest. So here the author of Hebrews encourages those in the church to examine their hearts to see if they are really regenerate, in case they aren’t really “saved” after all, because unbelief is what prohibits people from “entering God’s rest”. And this is emphasized in 4:1, where he says “let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it”. Or to say it another way, let us fear lest we get to the end of our lives and realize that we were fakes after all, and though we heard the good news, the message did not benefit us because we did not combine it with faith (v.2). So the outward manifestation of unbelief is eventually leaving the visible church and failing to persevere to the end under persecution or doubt (cf. I John 2:19).
    • Next, the author of Hebrews in 6:4-6 appeals to the goodness and beauty of Christ, and reveals how offensive falling away is in God’s sight, and how bad of a sin it is. He writes that “it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened…and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God…and holding Him up to contempt”.* Notice what the author of Hebrews is doing here. He reminds the church at Rome of the precious value of the blood of Jesus, and “how much it cost/to see our sin upon the cross”. He causes his audience to bring to mind how gracious and merciful God was in sending His Son to be crucified, and how undeserving and ungrateful and disrespectful we were/are with that gift, and thus how much we owe and how much we ought to love and cling to Him. So the motivation presented here is gratitude for God’s mercy and the fear of further offending our gracious Savior.
    • Finally, in verses seven and eight of chapter six, the author brings in the fear of judgment due to a lack of fruitfulness. He reminds the church that “you can tell a tree by it’s fruit” (Mat 7:15-20), and that “every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire” (Mat 3:10), urging them to “bear fruit in keeping with repentance” (Mat 3:8). But notice that while this final exhortation before he begins his exposition on the high priesthood of Jesus and the superiority of the New Covenant is very harsh, it is not damning. Because he follows up the confrontation with affirmation, stating that “in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things—things that belong to salvation”. So while the author warns and admonishes and exhorts the struggling church in Rome to examine themselves to be sure that they are truly saved, he encourages them with assurance that they are! It is a very strange paradox indeed, but one which we must believe, and preach, if we want to be biblical.

    So here are my conclusions for how to treat doubt either in our own lives or in others. (1) We must examine ourselves–hearts and lives–to see if we are truly saved. (2) We must encourage ourselves to hold fast and persevere through both suffering and doubt. (3) Christ is our only hope; if we cling to anything or anyone else for assurance, we will be standing on shifting sand, and in the end our lack of faith in Christ will become painfully obvious.

    Brothers and sisters, as we look to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, throwing off the sin which clings so closely and all else that would hinder us from holding fast our confession.

    *I’m quite aware that this is perhaps one of the more controversial passages in the New Testament, especially as it relates to the doctrine of assurance, and that I don’t actually tackle any interpretation here. But that’s because I don’t quite feel studied up on it enough to do it any semblance of justice. So give me a couple weeks, and then I’ll post an addendum or something with my take on how to make sense of the passage (though don’t expect anything original–I’ll probably just regurgitate Guthrie or Dr. Howell or something).

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  • 22 May 2010 /  Doctrine, Scripture, Theology /  by Trey

    [Please read Part 1, if you have not yet, so that you don't take me out of context.  I think it will serve us both.  Thanks.]

    Though I may try to act strong on the outside much of the time, I am very familiar with doubt and can very much relate to the Caedmon’s Call song that says “My faith is like shifting sand, so I stand on grace”. And most often I question not necessarily whether God is real or not, but whether I am real or not–that is, if I am really regenerate after all, or if I’ve been just playing the game the whole time. And so the doctrine of assurance is important to me, because often it is all I have to cling to, that “He who began a good work in me will bring it to completion on the day of Christ Jesus” (Phi 1:6). But there is something I’ve learned: asking the question “Am I a Christian?” is not a simple, quick exercise that has an easy answer, but rather, must involve intense self-examination and self-scrutiny, to see if your heart has truly been changed. There are several things on which you should absolutely not base your assurance: whether you feel God’s presence or not, whether you are a good person or not, and especially whether you prayed a prayer one time or not. All of those things are superficial, subjective, and very unreliable measures of one’s Christian-ness, and also quite unbiblical. So what should you base your assurance on? First let’s define what exactly it means to be a Christian.

    When I say “Christian”, or “saved”, what I really mean is one who has been delivered from the domain of darkness and transferred into the Kingdom of His beloved Son (Col 1:13), who has been regenerated and renewed by the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5), who shares in the heavenly calling (Heb 3:1), and who will one day be presented blameless before the glorious presence of God (Jude v24). But perhaps the main characteristic of a Christian is that he/she has “seen the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (II Cor 4:3), and has to come to see Christ as beautiful. Or as the late Keith Green so aptly said it, “a Christian is someone who is bananas for Jesus”. A Christian has tasted and seen (Ps 34:8) that all things are loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus as Lord (Phi 3:8).

    Thus, the way to know if you are a Christian is to examine your heart and see what exactly it is you treasure (Mat. 6:21). Now don’t misunderstand me. I’m not saying to test your emotions to see if you feel love for God; I mean you must look deep within yourself and test your heart of hearts. Ask yourself if you truly hate sin(Rom 7:15), or if you just feel guilt based on social pressure. Ask yourself if you really find rest and strength from God’s Word (Ps 1:1-2), or if you just want knowledge to impress people. Ask yourself if you actually care about people (Mat 22:39), or if you just serve and pretend so that you’ll feel better on the inside. And if you want a basis for this type of self-examination, look to Paul’s example in Romans 7, where he talks of his conflicting desires–his longing to do good but his flesh’s tendency to do evil–but then concludes “Who will save me from this body of death? Praise be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord!”. So if you can relate to Romans 7–if you find yourself in sin, but hate it in your heart–hope in Christ, for He will save you from your body of death. Your soul has already been redeemed, and your heart is currently being changed, and one day your flesh also will be restored to perfection.

    But such a test, when we are in the midst of spiritual dryness, can also be misleading. And so there is another way in which we can have assurance that we are Jesus sheep (John 10), and it’s founded in Philippians 1:6, which I’ve already quoted/referenced several times, that “He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion on the day of Christ Jesus”. If we want to know if God will bring us to completion, we can look back and see whether or not He has begun a good work–if we are no longer who we were. There are some outer behaviors which man can change on his own power, but only God can change a heart, and so if we want tangible evidence of our own regeneration, we can look to where we came from and where we are now. This has sustained me in many a dry season, when deadened by my hardness of heart and desensitized to sin in my life I nearly convinced myself that I did not even love God in my heart of hearts. But looking back on the arrogance and lack of self-control and abundance of self-centeredness that used to fill my heart an mind, and seeing the progress that God has made (though there’s still much further to go) gives me hope the He’s not finished with me yet, and more significantly that He is indeed working on me. And so I trust not in my own works, nor in my own goodness, nor even in my own faith, but only in Christ’s blood, poured out for me on the cross. And the blood of Christ is good enough assurance for me.

    Next we’ll deal with how to stay true to the Bible while talking about the doctrine of assurance.

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  • 21 May 2010 /  Doctrine, Scripture, Theology /  by Trey

    [For your convenience I've linked all my Scripture references to the appropriate passages on esv.org, so do yourself the favor and take the time to check them out, and be like the noble Bereans who made sure that what they were taught matched up with God's Word.]

    So I’ve tried several different ways to intro this, but I can’t find anything that works, so we’ll just dive in. I want to talk about three different aspects of the doctrine of the assurance of salvation: (1)the biblical basis for the doctrine of assurance, (2) who can have assurance, and (3) the practical application of the doctrine.

    So let’s tackle the biblical basis. I want to start with a slight caveat. I very much dislike the phrasing “once saved, always saved”. I think the language of this phrase is very unbiblical, because rarely do the apostles refer to being “saved” as something that happens on earth. Most of the times that word is used, it is within the phrase “you will be saved”, not “you are saved”. When the New Testament authors refer to the state of a person’s heart in the here and now, they use words and phrases like “in Christ”, “saints”, “those who are called”, “regeneration”, etc. Salvation most often refers to salvation from the future wrath to come (at death); so when you ask “can I lose my salvation”, well of course not, because you don’t have it now–but it’s very possible that you may not get it. So anways, back to the topic at hand. Kind of.

    There are two ways to approach any issue: the doctrinal basis and the strictly Scriptural basis. In other words, you can develop a general, comprehensive belief system and argue from there, or you can open to specific texts and argue from there. But I would submit that you absolutely must do both. For to only argue from doctrine is to stand on the authority of men’s logic, but to argue only from isolated texts is to miss the broader context of the rest of the Bible. And also, if you only do one but not the other, you can’t really argue with the other side, because both sides have their own doctrines to argue from which are equally logical, and both sides have their own texts that they work from to prove a point which are equally inspired. If you want to really be able to hold a good discussion with the opposition, you have to be able to show that your doctrine makes better sense of the Bible both as a whole and in specific texts. And if you really want to interpret and apply Scripture well, you must be able to understand the specific meaning in the larger context.

    So here’s how all that applies to the doctrine of assurance (finally). Those who believe that there is no assurance of salvation offered to Christians very often point to texts such as Hebrews 3 and 6Rom 2:6-7Rev 2:10,3:5, and others which emphasize human responsibility and seem to imply conditions upon the surety of our salvation. Or sometimes, those who reject assurance will also argue from the more abstract/logic level, saying that if “once saved, always saved” is true, then it takes away all incentive for holy living and gives license for sin (which, I might point out, Paul addresses in Romans 6, but that’s beside the point). Conversely, those who support the doctrine of assurance bring up passages like Rom 8:31-39John 10:28-291 John 2:19Phi 1:6 and other verses that emphasize the inexorable love of God and his promise to save us completely. Likewise, those who preach assurance also tend to debate from the abstract/logic side, saying things like “if we couldn’t do anything to save ourselves in the first place, then how can we do anything to lose it?”. So on both sides you have good logic and plenty of textual support, but obviously one of them has to be right and the other has to be wrong. Either you can or you cannot “lose your salvation”–there is no middle ground.

    But the answer, I believe, can only be found by looking at what Scripture says at a whole, and what each passage is really about in context, of itself and of the rest of the Bible. And at this point it would take WAY too long for me to try to walk through all of Scripture and try to show you why I have become convinced that God is sovereign over all things, including salvation (Rom 9:15-16), and that He is the active agent even in the hearts of men (Phi 2:13), so while those in the visible church may not really be regenerate(1 John 2:19), those who truly are in Christ by faith(Rom 3:21-22) will one day enter His rest (Heb 4). But I would love to sit down and talk through it, and/or recommend books and sermons. It’s not just enough to know the right things–you have to be able to understand why, and be able to interpret Scripture for yourself, or else at the first surface challenge you might be misled or shaken in your faith. So I challenge you, if you’ve just always believed in the doctrine of assurance, but could not defend it from both a doctrinal and scriptural angle, dig in. It’s well worth the effort, and along the way you will learn a lot about who God is and what it means to be a Christian.

    Next we’ll look at the question “How can I be sure that I will be saved?”

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  • 18 May 2010 /  Debunking Myself, Discussion /  by Zach

    I am probably the weirdest person you will ever meet in terms of making up words to put in the place of cussing. I will frequently range from saying something as close to the American culture’s ‘bad’ words as “freaking,” to words that are just basically me pulling letters out of thin air and putting them together after the phrase “what the…” I’ve been known to say frick, flip, frack, gravy, goodness, gracious, nonsense, fark, and many other borderline prafane words to make myself feel better about my exclamatory tendency. Now, (and of course this doesn’t make me any better than anyone I know who openly cusses, it probably actually proves I’m in denial or something) I haven’t really ever been one to outright cuss, I’ve always just used filler words. But the other day at lunch at Willie’s with some of my friends from the Art Institute I got called out.

    We were waiting in line to order when something warranted the exclamation from someone else, “What the french toast!?” which reminded me of the sign in Mrs. Prine’s old room at Cy-Creek that said “What the function?” (Math joke! But anyway.)  and so I said it out loud. Now, though this isolated event was not just me making an almost profanity exclamation for no reason (I was outwardly referencing the sign), I do a lot around my Art Institute friends, and this time, one of my two closest friends at Ai, Ashlee, called me out on it. We’ve talked about how I don’t cuss before, and she said, this time, “You know, you don’t really cuss, but you do in your own way.”

    She wasn’t trying to be mean or anything, but that comment froze me for a fraction of a second. I was really caught off guard by it. Really. I had to try really hard to not stop and have a mini theological debate in my head right there and stop everything else I was doing. So that’s where this blog comes in:

    Where do you stand on the subject of profanity?

    Obviously, some of us have had similar conversations a few times before because of everyone’s favorite edgy person, Derek oh-what-a-tangled-Webb-we-weave, and his album that you love-and-feel-uneasy-about-at-the-same-time, Stockholm Syndrome. (Sorry, I think I just broke the legal hyphenated adjective limit.)

    But anyway, I’m looking at a slightly different dichotomy I think. I’m looking to examine the difference between flat-out cussing and (let’s call the other one) ‘substitute’ cussing in the context of Christians being saved by faith (Ephesians 2:8) and God looking at the heart (1 Samuel 16:7).

    I think we can agree that flat-out cussing is generally frowned upon in Biblical teaching, if not because of the whole “Taming the Tongue” part of James 3, then because of the charge Paul gives us to not do anything that might make a brother fall (Romans 14:21). Aka, cuss in front of someone because we think it’s okay. Even if you think you are ‘solid enough in your faith’ to yell expletives, there may be someone around you who is struggling and will be really disappointed that someone they looked up to doesn’t care enough to keep their tongue tamed.

    Then there’s also Matthew 5:21-24 :

    “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

    “Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.”

    I put this whole thing in here because I think it’s the most important part of this subject for me and you to consider. Jesus is effectively saying here that it isn’t a matter of the word itself, it’s a matter of the heart behind the words. (Though I might add that I’m saying this after noting Romans 14:21 earlier, so I’m not advocating that we try to transcend the sin of cussing and be able to do it with a clean heart which I’m pretty sure isn’t even possible.)

    I suppose the main point of this post is not specifically that we should not cuss, but that we should be concerned with having pure hearts before God, because God looks at the heart. He does not care, I think, if we accidentally (or purposefully) cuss, or if we sin in any way (though if you’re not at least concerned with not sinning, there is probably something wrong), but I think that God sees us as really are, not as our specific sins. God wants us to yearn for him. If we are truly wanting God as we should, then we do not need to worry.

    “Give us clean hands and give us pure hearts,
    let us not lift our souls to another.
    O God let us be the generation that seeks,
    seeks your face, O God of Jacob”

    What do you think: about cussing? about little vs. big sins? about God looking at the heart? about anything else?

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  • 11 May 2010 /  Blog Update /  by Trey

    …and I’ll start posting real posts, that I’ve actually written, on a regular basis. Once school’s out and I can create my own schedule how I want it to be, I’ll make sure I include a slot for writing. But for now enjoy Zach’s random quotes, that are probably so much better than anything we can write, since obviously CS Lewis is so much awesomer than we are.

    In other news, Old Knaves/Mere Reflections (so in other words: Trey, Zach, Riley) is/are now the proud sponsor of a Peruvian seventh grader named Johan Avalos Saravia through the organization Food for the Hungry. One of us will probably post more about it later, but know for now that we are really excited. So yeah.

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  • 07 May 2010 /  Discussion, Quotes /  by Zach

    “We are not living in a world where all roads are radii of a circle and where all, if followed long enough, will therefore draw gradually nearer and finally meet at the centre: rather in a world where every road, after a few miles, forks in two, and each of those into two again, and at each road you must make a decision. Even on a biological level life is not like a river but like a tree. It does not move towards unity but away from it and the creatures grow further apart as they increase in perfection. Good, as it ripens, becomes continually more different not only from evil but from other good.
    “I do not think that all who choose wrong roads perish; but their rescue consists in being put back on the right road. A sum can be put rightly: but only by going back till you find the error and working it afresh from that point, never by simply going on. Evil can be undone, but it cannot ‘develop’ into good. Time does not heal it. The spell must be unwound, bit by bit, ‘with backward mutters of dissevering power’–or else not. It is still ‘either-or’. If we insist on keeping Hell (or even Earth) we shall not see Heaven: if we accept Heaven we shall not be able to retain even the smallest and most intimate souvenirs of Hell.”
    – from The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis

    For some reason, I had it in my head that this quote was saying something along the lines of there being one correct path and that we must find it, but upon rereading and typing it up, I came across the peculiar last sentence of the first paragraph, which I had forgotten about.

    Good, as it ripens, becomes continually more different not only from evil but from other good.

    What do you think this means?

    (Let’s get some responses this time, guys!)

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  • 30 Apr 2010 /  Discussion /  by Zach

    Donald Miller doesn’t think so.

    What do you think?

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  • 28 Apr 2010 /  Uncategorized /  by Riley

    So hey. I know I haven’t blogged on here in a while, not that that is a big deal. That’s why we have group blogs right? The train keeps rolling even when one person gets lazy :)

    But I am blogging again. I’ve decided I don’t want my old blog to suffer too much, so I plan on posting there a lot more. So for all of you that read it, know that I’m back in action with a new blog design and a I’m-gonna-get-owned series called Glory and Grace.

    Hit it up at blog.rileysheehan.net. I’m debating making this page my homepage at rileysheehan.net and ditch the minimalistic landing page.

    Peace

    -Riley

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